Category: Interviews

Jennifer LeeI first met the very lovely Jennifer Lee at Squam Art Workshops back in 2010. Jenn is a life and biz coach who’s been inspiring people with her right-brain approach to business for many years now. When biz stuff feels stuffy and intimidating I look to Jenn to show me how to infuse my creativity into the business systems I need to implement. Her first book, The Right-Brain Business Plan, turned the notion of the boring business plan on its head. Her newest book, Building Your Business the Right-Brain Way, guides the reader through the next phases of biz building, all with her solid biz expertise and delicious right-brain perspective. A business book filled with illustrations and creative exercises? Yes please!

Today Jenn’s kicking off a new series I’ll be running occasionally on the blog. Inspired by my own book, This I Know, I’m inviting the people who inspire me to answer the following questions: What are you most passionate about? What do know to be true?

Here’s what Jenn had to say…

I’ve always known that I’m creative. As a kid I loved to paint and draw and live in my imagination.

BUT it wasn’t until 10 years ago when I participated in an intensive leadership program, that I really, really got in my bones that creativity is much needed in the world and that creating beauty, meaning, and spaciousness is a tremendously valuable gift. Up until then, I thought that in order to succeed or be taken seriously I needed to be something I wasn’t. I thought that all leaders needed to be loud, fast, directive, demanding, masculine, and left-brained. And so, especially in the corporate world, I did what I could to fit in (and boy that certainly took its toll since I was everything opposite!).

I used to think that something was wrong with me for being so sensitive and quiet. I felt like people didn’t get me or overlooked me. Since I disregarded those creative, right-brain qualities in myself, I made it easier for people to disregard what I had to offer.

Now I know that my sensitivity helps me tap into my intuition and creativity; that it allows me to notice and deeply feel things that others may not quite yet see and to trust that I need to give voice to that.

Once I took the leap from corporate and started to step more into my softer, more right-brain style of leadership in my work and life, things began to shift. I began to slowly infuse more of my artistic side into my work and that’s when I started to attract more of my tribe and started to have more fun and more forward movement in my business.

Sure there are still people who don’t get me and even think the way I do business is silly, stupid, and cheesy (yep, I’ve got Amazon reviews to prove it!) but I know those folks are not my right peeps. What I do know is that my right-brain way of doing business resonates with those I’m most meant to serve and that I need to keep putting myself out there so that those creative souls know they are not alone. By showing up fully as my creative, authentic self, I give others permission to do the same.

The first guiding principle in my new book Building Your Business the Right-Brain Way is “Be uniquely you and embrace your creativity.”

For me “being uniquely me” means that:

I have colorful pictures in my business books.

I get so moved by emotion that I cry when I’m teaching on video or speaking on stage.

I have an entire wall covered in bright sticky notes to help me plan out my year.

I have funky, colorful hair.

I love to collage my business and life visions.

And more!

I’m still on a journey of becoming more and more of who I really am. And I know that with each step, I’m on the right path in my work and in my life.

How do you show up as uniquely you? How can you embrace more of your creativity in your work? What would be possible for you in your life or business if you owned more of who you really are?


Building Your Business the Right-Brain WayJennifer Lee is the author of Building Your Business the Right-Brain Way and the bestseller The Right-Brain Business Plan, which has helped tens of thousands of entrepreneurs around the world launch their creative businesses. After spending 10 years climbing the corporate ladder and getting tired of living her dream “on-the-side,” she took the leap to pursue her passions full-time. Jennifer has been featured in the Wall Street Journal, Entrepreneur, U.S. News & World Report, Whole Living, Family Circle, and Cloth Paper Scissors Studios. She lives in the San Francisco Bay Area with her husband and sweet husky-lab mix.

Find out more about Jenn at

When Michelle and Jess asked me to be a contributor to their fabulous new book, The Declaration of You, I didn’t hesitate to say yes. These two ladies are so inspiring, both full of so much energy and creativity, you can’t help but feel more expanded after spending time in their company. The Declaration of You started life as an ecourse and they’ve channelled all the colour, juice and inspiration from the course into their book. I was canny enough to sign up for the first session and absolutely loved it, so I’m doubled excited to see it as hold-in-my-hands book :)

Here’s the official blurb about the book:

“Uncover your purpose in life! Through a series of creative, colorful exercises – questions to get the wheels turning and an encouraging kick in the pants – readers of The Declaration of You will get all the permission they’ve craved to step passionately into their lives, discover how they and their gifts are unique and uncover what they are meant to do! Each chapter begins with a Discovery (explaining what the reader can expect to achieve by the end of the chapter), followed by a series of list-making explorations that leads the reader to creating a Declaration for that chapter. “Make It” sections provide fun and crafty project ideas for applying what the reader is discovering in a tangible way, while ”Own It” sections offers inspiring interviews with successful creatives like Kari Chapin, Susannah Conway, Leonie Dawson, Jonathan Fields, Alexandra Franzen, Anahata Katkin, Natalia KW, Danielle LaPorte, Jennifer Lee, Kelly Rae Roberts, Andrea Scher, and Colleen Wainwright.”

Sounds pretty awesome, yes?

the contributors
Our interview is featured in the Celebration chapter, and as a special treat the ladies are letting me share it in full here today. Enjoy!


M&J: You mention in your book and on your website that the man you loved died unexpectedly of a heart attack in 2005. We wonder, how has this experience changed and defined the ways you celebrate in your life?

SC: Going through grief and bereavement changed every single part of my life. First I had to learn to live without the man I loved; then I had to learn how to make a new life for myself. One of the gifts that came out of that time was the understanding that life is short. It sounds like such a cliche, but you really do learn to appreciate LIFE when you’ve faced down death (or illness or any other truly life-changing situation). So these days I celebrate being ALIVE. I celebrate my family and the love we have for each other. I celebrate being an auntie and live for the sweet moments I share with my nephew. I’ve learned that every single day I have is a gift and because I don’t know what tomorrow may bring I try my best to live in the Right Now. Some days I manage to do this better than others, but when I remember to live as consciously as possible, even the small things like a really stellar cup of coffee are reason enough to celebrate.

Do you have any advice around how to keep celebration in your life during dark periods, while going through a traumatic event, or when it seems like “the cup is half empty”? Do you think celebrating is at all an important part of the healing process?

It’s very difficult to celebrate when you’re going through a dark time, mainly because you lack the energy needed to feel hopeful or optimistic. I’ve endured several periods of depression in my life, and one of the things that’s helped me crawl out the other side is practicing gratitude. A gratitude list is a tiny celebration written down on the page. It’s the recognition of what is good in your life, even if it’s just the toast you had for breakfast. When I’m in a bad place I try to make the effort to list five things I am grateful for before I go to sleep — sometimes this means I write the same things for days in a row, but at some point there is a shift. Looking for the good — and acknowledging it in written form — helps my brain switch into a different gear. So while I may not have the energy for a big celebration, I’m creating my own pathway back to being able to do that.

You run a wildly successful e-course called Unravelling, in which thousands of women have participated around the world. How have you celebrated its success?

In June 2012 my first book was published. It’s called This I Know: Notes on Unraveling the Heart and was partly inspired by my course. In July 2012 I went on a seven-city book tour across North America, meeting readers and doing book signings. One of the best parts of the tour was getting to meet women who have taken my class. Each book event turned into a mini celebration of my course, too. It was humbling and amazing to meet so many people who had been touched by the course. I can’t think of a better way to have celebrated the success of Unravelling!

In what ways do you make sure celebration is a part of your daily routine? (ie: do you schedule it in to your calendar, or is it more spontaneous?)

I would love to be able to schedule celebration in to my calendar — what a wonderful idea! —  but sadly that doesn’t happen. Instead, I just make sure I see my most important people as often as I can. That means booking in coffees and lunches with friends, weekends at my sister’s house to spend time with my nephew (he is a celebration in a 3-year-old’s body) and the occasional getaway somewhere new.

What is your personal declaration around celebration?

To me, celebration means appreciation, gratitude and love. I work really hard so I try to remember to treat myself once in a while, gifting myself with little presents to bring some extra sweetness into my day. It could be a caramel latte, a new book or the occasional scented candle. Sometimes a hot bath is all the celebration I need at the end of a long productive day.

This post is part of The Declaration of You’s Blog Lovin’ Tour, which I’m thrilled to participate in alongside over 200 other creative bloggers. Learn more – and join us! – by clicking here.

As an extra treat we’ve got one copy of the book to giveaway, so if you’d like to win it simply leave a comment below and I’ll draw/announce the winner’s name on Friday xo

Today I’d like to introduce you to my friend, Sas. We met online back in 2010 and our first in-person date was actually a whole weekend at my place in Bath (I’ve since learned that Mr P not only drove her from their home in London but hung around nearby in case I was a psycho and she needed rescuing. Ha!) Since then we’ve been on plenty of escapades and put the world to rights MANY times. Sas recently stepped into her true calling as a life transformer (aka life coach) and I honestly can’t think of anyone more suited to that job. This month she’s leading the first session of emBODYment, her online program for women who want body peace — how awesome does that sound?

She asked me to share the Soundtrack to my Life over on her blog today, so I thought it only right that she does the same over here. Meet Sas!


When were you happiest? Right now, is marvellous. Most of the last decade has been about healing; working through grief and all the ‘stuff’ brought up by this big love with Mr P, irrecoverably changing my body with kindness, and stretching into my real purpose. I turn 40 in a couple of months and I feel awake, open, happy and so grateful. Nora Ephron was so right: ‘everything is copy’.

What was the most important thing that happened to you as a child? I had open heart surgery at four years old to correct a hereditary Atrial Septal Defect and Pulmonary Murmur (which is just fancy talk for a heart with a hole in it and an extra beat). In the early 1970s in New Zealand, this was an experimental procedure. Because she never expected me to survive, Mum poured everything into my early years – I could read and write from the age of three. Every day was an amazing adventure.

To whom would you most like to say sorry, and why? to Mum. For taking the precious years we had together completely for granted.

What song best explains the soundtrack to your teenage life? Must I Paint you a Picture, Billy Bragg


What does love feel like? It’s like coming home; its so simple and easy. And yet its profoundly extraordinary. It took me a long time to learn how to be loved. And to love myself.

What is the dumbest thing you have done in the name of love? So many things! From awful teenage poetry, to losing my self-belief.

What three qualities must/does your life partner possess? He is thoughtful, kind, and he makes me laugh.

What is your favourite love song? Feeling Good, Nina Simone and Keep Me In Your Heart, Warren Zevon


What is your secret job title? Wielder of the Magic.

What traits do you deplore in others? Any kind of fundamentalism – there is just no room for possibility.

What is your greatest life lesson (so far)? We are not our thoughts, feelings, bodies or actions. At the root of the root of all of us and everything, is love.

What song would you like played at your funeral? Goodbye Old Girl, Art Farmer and Short People, Randy Newman


What is your most treasured possession? A handwritten letter from Mum.

What is your favourite daily ritual? I recently bought a vibrating face cleanser (really) and it has changed my freakin’ life! I use it every morning and night and I love how soft and smooth my skin is.

Who are the five people you would love to host at afternoon tea? I have so many questions for Janet Frame, Buckminster Fuller, Christopher Hitchens, Julia Child and my maternal grandmother who died a decade before I was born.

What song feels like home? Not Given Lightly, Chris Knox.  This song is the smell of a BBQ and sunscreen and the sand between my toes. Its the sound of clinking glasses and the kids playing beach cricket. There’s nothing quite like a New Zealand summer evening *homesick face*


How do you take care of your body? Tonnes of water, SPF 86, rest and play. And good chocolate.

What has your body taught you? Everything. Who I am in the world is all because of my body. I navigate every decision in my life through my intuition (Sas Nav. Ha.) which lives in my body. I have such a deep, conscious trust for my body which feels kind of miraculous given how long I was completely indifferent to it.

If reincarnation is a thing, what body do you want to possess in your next life? No question: a beloved cat.

What song never fails to make you feel un-freakin-stoppable? Born Slippy, Underworld


What feeds your soul? Stories. There is nothing like an uninterrupted hour with a book. Or a conversation with someone who knows me well and loves me anyway.

What do people thank you for? For showing up and for the laughs.

If you were to be remembered for one thing, what would you like it to be? For being the kind of friend you could count on to help hide the body.

What song feels like it was written about you? Let Go, Frou Frou

[Photos by Xanthe Berkeley]

Last summer I was lucky enough to spend some time with the luminous Rachel W Cole in Portland and San Francisco. I’d admired her blog for a while and wanted to see what this switched-on inspiring woman was like in real life — and she didn’t disappoint. Wise far beyond her years, Rachel is a life coach who helps guide women towards a pleasure-filled, nourishing, well-fed life. And I know I want a slice of that so I’m thrilled to share that Rachel’s coming to London in April as part of her Well-Fed Woman Retreatshop tour. I will be sitting in the front row — can you join us, too?

To give you a taste of what Ms Cole is all about I asked her a few questions for the Creative Life interview series. Friends, it’s my great pleasure to introduce you to the lovely Rachel Cole…

Rachel, tell us a bit about your path into coaching…

My mother will tell you that I was always a coach. It’s not that I was always telling others what to do, but rather I was always interested in the deeper, more personal aspects of a person’s life and how they could find happiness. At parent/teacher conferences my teachers would report that I was “familiar” with them, asking about their personal lives – not your typical peer- or self-focused student.

My path towards coaching went something like this….

Majored in Political Science when I really should have been Psychology major. Developed anorexia in college. Recovered. Became fascinated with everything having to do with feeding ourselves. Was hired by the college post-graduation as a Disordered Eating Prevention & Education head for the Student Wellness Center.  Spent a year developing campus-wide educational programs and working with the counseling team on the treatment side of things. Realized I was hungry to learn more and headed back to graduate school.

I toyed with becoming a therapist, but ultimately felt more called to health education. Became frustrated that traditional Health Education masters programs quantified health in ways that I didn’t – namely by weight.

Found an awesome program in Holistic Health Education and moved to California. During that program, I took a seminar in Life Coaching and fell in love with it. I filed it away to be my second career because at the time, I was working in the sustainable food world in San Francisco and having a good run at it.

Ultimately, though, I left the food world in 2010 and started my Life Coaching certification.

This version of the story is from 30,000 feet. Get closer and you’ll see even more twists and turns. In the end, I’ve never been more at home in (or more grateful for) my work in the world.

What does being well-fed mean to you personally?

Being well-fed means that I welcome my hungers as wise allies, seeking to be in deep communion with them, and treat feeding myself as a sacred and powerful act of service. A world full of well-fed women would be a much more vital world than the one we’re living in today.  This is my life’s work.

You’re bringing your Well-Fed retreatshop to London in April (yay!) — can you tell us more about what we’ll do on the day? What will participants come away with?

I mentioned above that you’d get to see more twists and turns in my story if you got closer up. Well, you’ll get that at the Retreatshop. I share my story and the pull out the core lessons that form the basis for my teachings today. I offer individual attention helping everyone get really clear on their hungers and through a range of thought-provoking, soul-stirring, fun and restorative activities we work with our hungers, how we relate to them, and what gets in the way of feeding them. Shifts are guaranteed to happen. We’ll have time to talk and share stories and I do a lot of answering “but” questions. Questions like “But what if I don’t know what I’m hungry for?” or “But what if my partner is hungry for something that I’m not?” or “But what if it’s not possible to have what I’m hungry for?”

We laugh. We listen. We inquire. We share. We feast. The whole day is magic.

If you had a look at what past attendees said about attending, I think you’d get a good sense of the takeaways.

How do you personally deal with creative blocks and down days? Tell us about your self-care practices…

I surrender to it. I try to never muscle through anything in my life. Long ago I embraced the idea that you can catch more flies with honey. Ease and softness are my ‘weapons’ of choice.

I tune out what others are doing so I don’t fall into a well of comparison and despair.

I follow where my flow wants to lead, even if that’s mopping the floors or cutting my toenails.

I trust. I release as many ‘should’s as I can. I practice self-kindness in how I speak to myself, in how I choose to spend my time, and how I move through a block.

What and who inspires you – could you share some links and recommendations?

Geneen Roth
Brene Brown
Anna Guest-Jelley
India Arie
Alex Franzen
Jenna Lyons & J.Crew
Cheri Huber
Elizabeth Lesser
Grandma Lo-Fi

Uplifting Art
Ottolenghi Cookbooks
My parent’s collection of American Baskets
Somatica Therapy
This Modern Love article

What is the message you want to share with the world?

Trust and feed your truest hungers. The world is crying out for well-fed women.

What are you working on next?

In September I’m co-leading my first overnight retreat with one of my sources for inspiration, Anna Guest-Jelley. Details about the retreat will be released soon, but I can tell you that it’s called Wise Body, Wise Hungers: Yoga & Coming Home to Your Desires and it will be held at Green Gulch Zen Center in California.

You’re having a dinner party and can invite six famous people from the past or present – who would you choose and why?

:: Jimmy Fallon – for the laughs and to play board games with.
:: Wendell Berry – for, among other things, leading grace.
:: Bill Cunningham – for his commentary on the night’s fashion and overall adorableness.
:: Julia Child – for her majesty and because she’d cook something delicious.
:: Brene Brown – for her Texan drawl, belly laughter-inducing stories, and brilliant heart.
:: Amanda De Cadenet – to take amazing portraits of us (you know, just me and the gang) and ask great questions.

Not famous additions:
:: My parents and sister – because they taught me the joys of a well-thrown dinner party.
:: My Nana – who is no longer with us, but would make the absolute best tamales.

This party would be awesome.


Isn’t she delicious? Thank you so much for sharing with us today, Rachel!

You can sign up for The Well-Fed Woman Retreatshops over here

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